Curse

cataphract · Jun 06, 2011, 07:40 AM // 07:40

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Originally Posted by shady tradesman

Here's a challenge: Complete this while nurturing a healthy relationship and job.

Been doing that for the last three years. No challenge at all.

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Originally Posted by Martin Alvito

Tedious ("Hard") Mode is already tedious. I can't see why you'd want to add to the tedium.

Not everyone finds HM tedious.

vader · Jun 06, 2011, 01:09 PM // 13:09

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Originally Posted by cataphract

The challenge has started. I've made an ele. Kajusbnous decided to join me in this challenge and he made a monk.

In a way, you have already cheated by having someone who knows how to play join you. When new people start playing, they don't have the luxury of someone joining them along the way (especially a Monk). Unless you are both working on this separately.

cataphract · Jun 06, 2011, 01:37 PM // 13:37

By that same logic I've cheated even before that because I know how to play. OMG! I should have seen this coming and I must apologize to every member of the community for being dishonest. And chasing e-peen. /eek

I hope that the community will find it in their hearts to forgive me for my transgressions and cheating nature. The first thing I shall do upon my arrival home will be to delete the character. I shall then proceed to stick my head in the doorframe and slam the door a dozen times in hopes of making myself stupider and forgetting how to play GW. Only then shall I be worthy enough to take on this challenge.

Also, before every playing session, I shall sniff glue for 30 minutes and play as retarded as possible.

Jesus Christ, people, can't you ever stop nitpicking, whining and generally trying to kill every shred of fun for the rest of us?

P.S. In case you were wondering, and it's obvious that you were, Kajusbonus and I met in-game only to trade a Battlepick he bought on my auction. We have yet to team up with our characters. And when we do, you'll be the first to know. So you can rant and troll some more. <3

The Rift · Jun 06, 2011, 04:10 PM // 16:10

I made myself a new charater for this challenge aswell, looks like a fun thing to do

.

Greetz The Rift

Verene · Jun 06, 2011, 04:37 PM // 16:37

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Originally Posted by shady tradesman

Here's a challenge: Complete this while nurturing a healthy relationship and job.

You say that like that's actually difficult.

(most people are able to balance work, relationship, and hobbies just fine, you know)

cataphract · Jun 06, 2011, 05:16 PM // 17:16

Yeah, but they don't post on Guru. Duh.

Olle · Jun 07, 2011, 12:17 PM // 12:17

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Originally Posted by vader

In a way, you have already cheated by having someone who knows how to play join you. When new people start playing, they don't have the luxury of someone joining them along the way (especially a Monk). Unless you are both working on this separately.

I have an lvl 20 : ranger, dervish, rit,sin,mesmer,warrior,necro,paragon,ele.
but not an lvl 20 monk, therefor, i choose monk.
i dont know cataphract, i have just seen the threads he/she started/posted in.

QQ'ers will never go away

Olle · Jun 07, 2011, 12:30 PM // 12:30

And we're off!

Kayelyyb · Jun 08, 2011, 08:33 PM // 20:33

don't go ele, go healing breeze wammo

thedarkmarine · Jun 08, 2011, 09:36 PM // 21:36

this is all easy cakes.

try to get a legendary survivor on a pvp toon.

cataphract · Jun 09, 2011, 05:56 AM // 05:56

The only thing pvp toons are good for is additional storage.

tummlykins · Jun 09, 2011, 06:37 AM // 06:37

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Originally Posted by Verene

You say that like that's actually difficult.

(most people are able to balance work, relationship, and hobbies just fine, you know)

I would argue the grindy nature and immense time investment to get a single GWAMM let alone several would prevent anyone who does it in 12 months from having a healthy involvement in the real world. You would be spending so much time in-game grinding stuff that you wouldn't have time to go to friends' birthday parties, the gym, a run, visit your mother, play sports, learn new life skills, work on advancing your career, foster healthy relationships with partners, friends and family, other hobbies etc. I'm sure you could do some of these things, but GWAMM is going to take you away from the real world more than a single game should (unless you are confined to home for some reason, like illness, caring for an elder, mothers who don't invest time in other things etc). If you think you can do all of them you are either botting or underestimate how much time being involved with life on a healthy level takes up. Or you've discovered some super secret way of obtaining GWAMM which makes it trivial.

Gaming is one of those "hobbies" that doesn't really multitask well - you rarely play with people you know irl and it's never comparable to doing something with them in the real world, so practical social skills aren't being used/developed. You don't learn new skills on a level which would be applicable to a job (at least not in the vast majority of GW could you argue that - compare this with fishing, which teaches you about how to prepare fish, how to tie knots, often people learn to drive boats and general practical skills) and you physically don't develop at all (sitting in a chair vs anythign which involves leaving the house). It's great as a stress reliever or just burning down time but things like GWAMM cross the boundary from a little bit of time to too much time with little to no redeaming real life value.

If you worked on a single GWAMM over a period of 3-4 years I can see how that wouldn't be too grind intense, well same amount of grind, just different spread of game time. Some people are just more invested in the game than they are in the real world. That's fine, but I'm not going to pretend GWAMM in shorter periods of time (I'm talking 12 months, not 1 month) is compatible with a healthy involvement in the real world.

Gabs88 · Jun 09, 2011, 06:44 AM // 06:44

Yeah, sure it sounds doable. But extremely boring. I suggest you spend half the time youre planning to spend on the new GWAMM on going out, enjoying the sun and some bike rides. Maybe grab a girlfriend while you're at it.

4 GWAMMs along with a ridicilusly unhealthy sounding project like this one is just too much, there's more to life.

cataphract · Jun 09, 2011, 06:49 AM // 06:49

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Originally Posted by tummlykins

You would be spending so much time in-game grinding stuff that you wouldn't have time to go to friends' birthday parties i hate crowds, the gym basketball ftw, a run bicycle ftw, visit your mother she's like two blocks down, play sports basketball ftw, learn new life skills MCITP Enterprise Administrator, work on advancing your career got called for a new job and promptly quit the old one, foster healthy relationships with partners over two years and still kicking <3, friends and family we bbq and mingle every two weeks, other hobbies etc pimping out my honda civic. I'm sure you could do some of these things, but GWAMM is going to take you away from the real world more than a single game should (unless you are confined to home for some reason, like illness, caring for an elder, mothers who don't invest time in other things etc). If you think you can do all of them you are either botting or underestimate how much time being involved with life on a healthy level takes up. Or you've discovered some super secret way of obtaining GWAMM which makes it trivial.

All that bolded stuff with four GWAMMs. Thanks for making me feel like Superman. I really appreciate the ego boost. Won't have to apply for a moderator now. thx

tummlykins · Jun 09, 2011, 06:50 AM // 06:50

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Originally Posted by cataphract

All that bolded stuff with four GWAMMs. Thanks for making me feel like Superman. I really appreciate the ego boost. Won't have to apply for a moderator now. thx

You're welcome?

cataphract · Jun 09, 2011, 06:54 AM // 06:54

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Originally Posted by tummlykins

You're welcome?

You are most kind.

But seriously, you "get a RL" guys are overestimating how hard making a GWAMM is. My hardest GWAMM was my first one. Every one after that was a lot easier.

tummlykins · Jun 09, 2011, 07:02 AM // 07:02

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Originally Posted by cataphract

You are most kind.

But seriously, you "get a RL" guys are overestimating how hard making a GWAMM is. My hardest GWAMM was my first one. Every one after that was a lot easier.

I'm not telling you to get a RL. I'm fine with you getting your GWAMM if that's what you want to do. The game exhists to give people content to play through, if people want to grind for GWAMMs and they enjoy that, go for gold. No-one here is trying to stop anyone from doing that. You put your idea on a public forum (your GWAMM challenge). People are giving their personal views on your idea on said forum and responding to the personal views of others (in my case it was Verene's point).

People aren't trolling you or this thread. They just have a different view on how challenging your GWAMM challenge truly is. Others have a different view on the time investment required to get GWAMM (which is probably off topic anyway).

If you don't want people who have different views on your GWAMM challenge to share those views, don't post it on a public forum. I thought the intention of the topic was to get feedback from people on whether they though the peramiters you set were challenging.

Olle · Jun 09, 2011, 07:06 AM // 07:06

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Originally Posted by Gabs88

Yeah, sure it sounds doable. But extremely boring. I suggest you spend half the time youre planning to spend on the new GWAMM on going out, enjoying the sun and some bike rides. Maybe grab a girlfriend while you're at it.

4 GWAMMs along with a ridicilusly unhealthy sounding project like this one is just too much, there's more to life.

i have 1 godwalkings atm , and about to get an second, but ive also helped maxing 3-4 Lux/kurz titles, and survivors, and many other protector/guardians.
Im also in Ling's powerhouse, the most used, and famous running thread in GW, probably in the whole GW history.

i play GW for 10 hours a day ish, but still, i got an gf(2 years yday FYI)
got an chef job, goes to school , got best grades in my class.
Please tell me how to get an life.
please.

cataphract · Jun 09, 2011, 08:18 AM // 08:18

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Originally Posted by tummlykins

If you don't want people who have different views on your GWAMM challenge to share those views, don't post it on a public forum. I thought the intention of the topic was to get feedback from people on whether they though the peramiters you set were challenging.

Please read the opening post with special focus on the last sentence:

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Originally Posted by cataphract

Please share your thoughts and comments on how to make the challenge more... Challenging.

It would seem I wasn't asking people to tell me what they think about GWAMM or how hard, boring, tedious and unhealthy it was. But that's just me.

P.S. Mods can close the thread now. We've decided to open a new thread for monitoring our progress and adventures for those interested. As this thread is beginning to turn into a place of preaching a healthy level of living and a trollfest is only a keystroke away I would ask you to be a bit more rigorous to the offtopic in that new thread. Thank you.

Verene · Jun 09, 2011, 09:21 PM // 21:21

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Originally Posted by tummlykins

I would argue the grindy nature and immense time investment to get a single GWAMM let alone several would prevent anyone who does it in 12 months from having a healthy involvement in the real world. You would be spending so much time in-game grinding stuff that you wouldn't have time to go to friends' birthday parties, the gym, a run, visit your mother, play sports, learn new life skills, work on advancing your career, foster healthy relationships with partners, friends and family, other hobbies etc. I'm sure you could do some of these things, but GWAMM is going to take you away from the real world more than a single game should (unless you are confined to home for some reason, like illness, caring for an elder, mothers who don't invest time in other things etc). If you think you can do all of them you are either botting or underestimate how much time being involved with life on a healthy level takes up. Or you've discovered some super secret way of obtaining GWAMM which makes it trivial.

Gaming is one of those "hobbies" that doesn't really multitask well - you rarely play with people you know irl and it's never comparable to doing something with them in the real world, so practical social skills aren't being used/developed. You don't learn new skills on a level which would be applicable to a job (at least not in the vast majority of GW could you argue that - compare this with fishing, which teaches you about how to prepare fish, how to tie knots, often people learn to drive boats and general practical skills) and you physically don't develop at all (sitting in a chair vs anythign which involves leaving the house). It's great as a stress reliever or just burning down time but things like GWAMM cross the boundary from a little bit of time to too much time with little to no redeaming real life value.

If you worked on a single GWAMM over a period of 3-4 years I can see how that wouldn't be too grind intense, well same amount of grind, just different spread of game time. Some people are just more invested in the game than they are in the real world. That's fine, but I'm not going to pretend GWAMM in shorter periods of time (I'm talking 12 months, not 1 month) is compatible with a healthy involvement in the real world.

You make a lot of stupid and ignorant assumptions, both in the amount of time it takes to do GWAMM (it's not as time-intensive as you seem to think) and whether or not people even want to do the things you claim they'll be missing out on (playing sports? Kill me now. Visiting family? If I wanted to do that, I wouldn't be planning a cross-country move).

But it is more than possible to balance a video game, work, school, and relationships without any of the non-game stuff suffering.

But what would I know, I'm only in the process of of planning a wedding and a cross-country move that will benefit both mine and my fiance's careers while working, while still having plenty of time to spend playing GW